Our first question comes from one of Braja's readers, Mervat at The Writing Instinct.
Dear B & D:
Why is it that a 14 year old boy (my wonderful son) can go through major surgeries (two spinal fusions affecting 13 vertebras, 5 ribs and several huge scars), have his life-threatened in the latter, be physically changed for life, not ever be able to play team sports which he just loves, and keep smiling and telling his mum (!) that all he is concerned about is Mum worrying and that all will be okay. Yet, a man in his early 60's (family member) can be so anal (sorry!) to compare his surgical experience (nowhere near as demanding or complicated as my son's), number of stitches to my son's and still whinge and whine? Very sad, I know. For the life of me I cannot work
this out and this person really bothers, hurts, annoys me (I could go on and on). Can you, dear Braja (and Debbie) work it out? Maybe even help me see a different side, that is, is it me? I await your answer with much interest.
Dear Mervat:
Oh, the conundrum. The young one that we would assume would be more fragile and delicate is strong and stoic while the older one that we hoped would be tough and strong is whining like an animal. I've seen this same thing played out numerous times and I have experienced your confusion and annoyance. I've even seen this at play in various older married couples - when one mentions a small ache or pain, the other has to trump it. I've listened to it escalate to the point where I just knew one of them would claim to be dead, just to win the game.
Which I think it is - a game. A game of seeing who can get the most attention I am afraid. Obviously, your son isn't playing this game. He is taking the high road and I hope he can continue to do so. However, I believe your older relative is probably jealous of any and all attention your son is getting from his physical situation. Grandpa (or whoever he is) is thinking to himself, "This young whippersnapper thinks he has felt pain? I've got 50 years on him. He hasn't experienced anything." Truthfully, were you to approach him about it, he probably isn't even aware he is doing it. It's quite similar to the "Back in my day, we walked 50 miles to school uphill both ways while barefoot" stories. I think the older generation tends to always fall into that trap of how hard they had it.You could try being honest with Grandpa. Tell him that you feel like he is downplaying Timmy's medical problems. That you realize he doesn't mean to do it, but it seems like he is always turning the focus back to himself which makes you uncomfortable. You could even throw in how proud you are of Timmy's strength and feel like the constant focus on other medical maladies might encourage him to start complaining. You might mention that you are trying to steer all conversations completely away from anything physical. And then ask him to tell Timmy about that time when he was young that he... I'm sure you can think of some exploit the old man loves to drone on about and go from there.
But I would not take his comments personally as an affront against you or your son. It is just the unfortunate habit of far too many people to list their medical problems in grocery list fashion.And our second letter comes from one of my readers:
Dear B & D:
My husband wants to buy a $7,000 motorbike. If you go by Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs - straight to the top - he NEEDS this bike.
Most of our married life, I've had a stable income that is enough to cover our basic needs, so I've had no problem "giving permission" to buy toys with his own income in the past. In fact, we each have our own bank accounts, and we haven't really made a big issue of what we do with "our own money." In 14 years of marriage, we've never fought over money.
Since December, though, I'm not really employed - I'm taking on the role of SAHM. So all of a sudden we're dependent solely on his self-employment income, which is not really anything at the moment thanks to a couple of factors. We have enough saved to cover basic needs for a year or so, so no panic.
But this bike? Do I encourage him to get it? Do I say, "It's your decision" (which I've done, but he doesn't like that response)? Do I discourage it? I appreciate the fact that he wants my opinion, but I hate being the "NO" person.
And he's convinced that he can sell the bike for more than he paid for it if he needs to - so it's really an investment...
Sincerely,
Scared of Motorbikes in Oregon
Dear Scared,
The economy loves people like your husband. I keep hearing that we won't start to climb out of this recession until people start to spend freely on luxury items again. However, the recovery does not have to start with him.
Let's start with his last argument - selling the bike for more than he paid for it if need be. Do me a favor - reach over and pinch your husband so he'll wake up out of this dream. Nothing is selling for more than it is worth in this economy. Most things are not selling at all. Especially luxury items that no one truly needs. He needs to admit that he might not be able to sell it even at a substantial loss if he needed to raise some capital.
Do you still have separate bank accounts even though you are not employed outside the family now? I think you and hubby need to have a little sit-down. You need to combine your accounts and your assets into one account - a family account.

And then you need to set up a family budget. Realistically look at what your family income will be this year and what your expected expenses might be. Don't forget to factor in those unexpected expenses too - illness, broken appliance, etc. All those fun things that adults have to be prepared for. Maybe if you do this and he can see in black and white that there really isn't much disposable income in the budget this year for grown up toys, he will let the motorcycle dream go willingly. If not, I think you have to tell him that you are just too nervous about finances and the near future to spend that much money at this time. That you realize this is something he really wants and as soon as you are all more financially sound, you hope he can get the bike.
Well, that's all the time we have for solving the world's problems this week. Don't forget to head over to Lost and Found in India to see how Braja answered these same questions.And what is your question?

46 comments:
"Timmy"! Priceless! bwaahhaaahaaa!
Heidi's tickled pink :)
Great answers, Debbie. It's encouraging to all of us who have had similar problems with the braggers and spenders in our families.
You guys make Ann Landers look like an inept 4 year-old.
Wow! You ARE the Dear Abby of the Blog World. Great Answers. Just so you know, my mother does this. My father has had very REAL, very SERIOUS health issues the past few years - but as soon as anyone asks him how he is doing she butts in with her "issues"... not real, not serious. ie: stubbed toe, sore thumb... Must be a universal thing. The need for attention is great among humans.
Keep up the great responses!!
Here's my question - why do beautiful, brave boys like Timmy grow into whiny Grandpas or Need-a-Motorbike Dude ? Is there anything we perfect women can do to prevent this ?
Happy Saturday !
Um, on the motorbike, and this is a hardcore personal prejudice of mine after spending way too much time in the head and neck trauma unit with my dad...The cost of the husband's medical bills from a bike accident would worry me a whole lot more than the cost of the bike. Just sayin'.
Tough questions this week. You rise to the occasion with your answers Deb.
Okay here's a question. You're still younger than medicare age but you go to the gas tank to get that millionth tank of gas you always do and you can't remember how to turn on the *#*&^!!%^&!!!# gas tank. Is that a worry? Should I be looking into old people homes? Need I approach the subject of 'taking care of me' to my children who will run like the wind the OTHER direction? Really. When should I be worried more than I am right now. Would vitamin B12 make it better? In other words....H.E.L.P!!!!
Great advice! I look forward to reading them next fortnight. ;)
Great answers! I personally have an aversion to motorcycles and have known several people who were gravely injured or died riding them. That would be argument: i love you and don't want you to get hurt riding a midlife crisis machine.
I'm happy to now know what fortnight means!
My hubs and I had several conversations over a motorcycle. I basically said, "I want you to have the bike, but when I look at the big picture of our family, I think there are so many other things we need first." He ended up putting off the purchase until we were better prepared to pay for it. He loves that bike and I am happy he has it AND that he waited to buy it when it wouldn't put a strain on our budget.
VERY interesting blog Debbie! I was led here via SA's, hope you don't mind. LOVE your icon/avatar. Is that a Vargas (sp?) girl?
I just gave you a shout out on my famous blog.
Thanks for the comments.
I can relate to the first question. I once had a friend compare her daughter's ear infections to my son's heart surgery. For real.
You are way nicer than me with your advice. I'd tell the adults to suck it up and shut up :-) Maybe that's why I'm not a successful advice columnist like you!
so the bike is an "investment"- riiigggghhhttt
Tough questions to tackle but you gave some well thought out answers...
Debbie, you are so versatile...you can do hysterical humor one day, and then turn around with the most profound and sincere advice! You never cease to amaze me with your wit! I am inspired! ~Janine XO
Interesting to see the differences in the answers you and B present. The next time I have an issue, I'm bringing it straight to the two of you!
I say tell him 'screw the motorcycle and grow up' but that's just me....
Great solutions! I have a MIL who plays the "Who is Sicker" card all the time! She makes me want to play "Who's Going to Die First" game!~
Great answers to tough questions! You are truly as witty and clever as I thought you were! I'm definitely bringing my next big problem to you to solve!
Sending you smiles and sunshine from McNabb Land!
You should do vlogs of this. Great stuff Debbie.
What a great idea for blog posts. Great answers too! I would have never been able to give such good advice.
Seriously, I love how you manage to be funny and witty but give really good advice too! You are my idol.
Love it.
Some of the best advice I received from my father before my marriage was, "Get it now." I wanted a piano - a nice one. I had nearly enough saved up to buy a really good piano. I approached my father to ask him about it. I was already engaged to Lo Gung at the time. His advice was, "Go get it. Now. Before you're married. Later, it will be a joint decision and you'll never get it." We joke that the piano is my dowry - I put my whole life savings into that thing, and my father covered a bit at the end. (Isn't that what Daddies do for their little girls?) I've been teaching piano lessons on it for several years, and I've never regretted the decision. Another thing he taught me, though, is that it's a JOINT decision after marriage. No my account, your account. Yes, there's sort of an "allowance", or mad money if you will...but yeah. No Mine or Yours.
Debbie these are wonderful and that young boy who is so strong.
That is what I call spirit. I love your answers.
xoxoxo
I agree, I agree!
Oh dear, Debbie...don't be so nice to me...my son will tell you that when people are too nice to me, it makes me cry...LOL. Thanks for visiting! You always make my day! ~Janine XO
Too funny, just too funny :)
Love the advice. I am so keeping you in mind if I have any issues.
Great advice on the first one from both of you..very insightful
Forget Dear Abby...
I will just email you!!!
Just like Braja, you are so soundly reasonable. I still want to kick the old guy.
I think you are wise to suggest they go over the finances...that is SO much nicer than screaming NO at him which is what I would suggest.
Great answers! Happy Sunday!
Such thoughtful answers (of course I'm not surprised). No wonder people keep asking you to solve all the world's problems.
That last girl? I think we might be married to the same person. Sometimes an iron skillet is in order. ;)
Your advice needs to be in a newspaper. :)
Gotta say, Debbie, you've got one bright head on your shoulders. =]
Debbie, thank you so much for the time you have taken to provide your thoughtful advice. I am indebted to you and Braja and will take all on board. You know, over time I start to think that it's not so bad, but then 'something' happens (such as my son having a week off school last week because of severe muscle spasms causing him to be bed-ridden the whole time) and the 'old guy's' comparisons and contrasts start all over again. I *know* I will read and re-read yours and Braja's advice often just to keep me sane if nothing else!
Thank you once again.
xo
PS Cna you tell me where I can get the black t-shirt?! I think you can take a guess at what the old man may be getting for his birthday! ;)
xo
I didn't know what "fortnightly" was either!!
Have you both considered writing a book together...seriously! You give better advice than my 93-yr old grandmother and she's been around the block a few times.
I loved your advice - firm and loving.
Speaking purely from theory here....raising kids looks alot like raising puppies.
Oh wow!
Is this where I should get my techniques from *laughing*
Thanks for dropping by at my blog!
I am truly loving your stuff here!
Deb - For Mr Motorcycle...I solved this problem with my husband by saying YES he can have the bike WHEN he has 1 million in life insurance coverage(that covers motorcycle accident death). Until then, don't even bring it up. His family comes before the bike so he needs the safety net in place for when some idiot doesn't see him and runs him over.
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