Wednesday, September 2, 2009

Parents without lives

The weekend before my son left for college, I drove him to a camp where he spent the weekend. On the way there, we met up with one of his buddies under some golden arches for them to get their teenage boy junk food fix. While we were sitting at the table for them to eat, I noticed the other boy's phone was constantly going off. He was receiving text after text. Now, with three full fledged teens and one knocking on the door living in my house, I am no stranger to the texting habits of the American teen. But this seemed excessive. So, I had to comment.
"You certainly are popular", I offered as an explanation.

He rolled his eyes, sighed a long, deep sigh, and said, "It's my girlfriend's mom. She texts me all the time."
Yes boys and girls, you read that right. The eighteen year old boy's girlfriend's mom was texting him. All through his dinner.

I thought about that for a few seconds and then had to tell this young man that I have known for years that there was something very, very wrong about that. He agreed and went on to tell me that both of her parents try to run his life. And the mother calls and texts him all the time.
During the three weeks that have passed since that little experience, I have been noticing other very troubling signs about parents in my generation.

We need to park the helicopters, turn over our pilot's license, and leave these kids alone.
I'm blessed to have kids who are my friends on Facebook. What I do for them in return for that honor is to pretend like I'm not on there. You know the drill. If you have kids old enough to let you drive them and their friends in your car, I hope you have already mastered this skill. You drive. And you listen. To every single word. But you do not join in. And you pretend you aren't even listening. This is how you learn. And how they continue to want to go places with you.But there are women my age on Facebook commenting on every single thing their child posts. Every status update, every comment - everything. And, to make matters worse, they comment on other kids' pages. They are stalkers. Without the sense to pretend otherwise.
Some colleges battle with parents calling their kids every morning to wake them up. Or texting them after each and every class to find out how it went. Sure, I am sad as can be that my kids are away at college. But, I'm smart enough to give them some space. And I bought them alarm clocks years ago.

Now back to my son's friend. What I wanted to say to this boy was, "Run. As fast as you can." But I didn't. I wanted to ask him what kind of girlfriend or wife that young girl would become if her mother was that masterful at running other people's lives. I wanted to tell him normal people my age just don't text 18 year old boys. But, I bit my tongue and only told him I thought that was odd behavior for a woman my age. And that it must be uncomfortable for him to deal with.

Three days later he broke up with the girl.

Smart young man.

Now if only the adults were that smart.

145 comments:

♥ Braja said...

OMG, that is intense. And yes sensible and intelligent people like your son will not give themselves over to that kind of sick control....ugh....well done Debbie :)

Kim Mailhot said...

Yikes ! I am glad that your son's friend had the smarts - it gives a little hope that maybe we can one day get back to having a little more sense and a little more privacy with the next generation...a little hope, I said. :(
Helicopter parents, give it up !

TheQueen@TerrorsInTiaras said...

Can you imagine the scary mother-in-law stories he could have told? Yikes. Poor kid. Glad he decided it was over.

Tara said...

what a great post Debbie.... You are so 100% right...let them grow up...let them breath... some people just SCARE me!

honeypiehorse said...

Well just to be devil's advocate here, it could be that the girl's parents wanted him to break up with their daughter... but I am still chuckling over that picture of Endora!

The Good Cook said...

Deb,

OMG - as the mother of 3 boys I would have been mortified if a girlfriend's mother was texting or calling them. AND I would have told them how wrong that is.

What is wrong with parents? And yes, park those helicopters people. I miss my 19 year old who just went back to school but am pleasantly anticipating the day when 17 year old and 15 year old leave too.

Love them - but no empty nest syndrome here. :-)

Michele Renee said...

Wow!!!
Hey, was her name Mrs. Robinson?

BTW, last year in 7th grade one of my son's teachers befriends her 12 year old students on Facebook. Luckily my kid isn't allowed to have Facebook or an email address.

bermudaonion said...

Oh my gosh! That is rather scary! I know a lot of helicopter parents out there, but I'm proud to say I'm not one of them. Our son is at college and he only calls when he has something to tell us (or needs money), so it usually over a week between calls. It was hard at first, but you do get used to it. I hope you're doing okay.

Dedene said...

That was a bit weird. I'm glad to hear that you aren't one of those moms!

Your kids are lucky!

confused homemaker said...

Ok, yea that would be weird. I agree give kids space, it can be hard to do but it will mean a healthier stronger relationship in the long run.

blueviolet said...

Sadly, she's likely to do the exact same thing to the next runner-up.

I had a friend who was similar to that. She would sit there and IM her daughters' boyfriends and they'd chat back and forth like that for hours. It was freaky. The boyfriends would always sit with her at games and events as we watched our daughters perform.

Now I'm all for being friendly and having a happy mom/boyfriend relationship but all I want is a friendly greeting when you're picking up my daughter. I certainly don't want to talk to you on the phone or text you.

It's all too weird.

Steph @ Diapers and Divinity said...

I realize that this is judgmental, but to me it shows a lack of confidence in your own parenting. If you know you've raised them in a way that instills values and self-reliance, there's no need to hover around and monitor each choice. I think those parents are afraid they've failed and they're trying to make up for it. My kids are young, so I may eat my own words, but my goal is to teach them all I can and give them survival tools and a good sense of right and wrong and then let them loose and pray like crazy.

smiles4u said...

You address a big issue that has become a problem at many college campuses. I recently watched a news show that said many colleges now have hired a person that soley deals with helicopter parents. Sad. Scarey.

I know a few helicipter parents personally and I must say they are miserable and their kids are miserable with this kind of attention. I can barely stand to be around them. I've given up trying to talk to them about it. Their own children asked me to talk to their parents but it did no good.

This women texting this young boy is wrong on so many levels. It's good that he wised up and ended it. Good post!

Juls said...

I love this. And OMG--that mom is crazee! This was good for me to read...and I am certain it will come in handy in the near future. :)

Kathy B! said...

I think this is sound advice. It is so tempting to over-participate as the kids get older.

Sometimes it's better just to be quiet. Even though it's killing you!!

Life As I Know It said...

I had to read that line twice before it sunk in 'his girlfriend's mother?!?' Wow. Speechless, really.

Every parenting generation has
their own issues. We happen to be in the helicopter generation right now...but the next generation of parents will have other issues.

You kind of almost feel bad for the girlfriend's mother...almost.

Tooj said...

I am trying to find a gentle way to tell my mom to stop commenting on my brother's FB page. How should I go about that? He's younger than I am, single, but dating his first "real" girlfriend. He puts up his status and my mom and our older brother always have to comment. I wish they wouldn't. I try not to interfere too much with my brother's FB "coolness". After all, I am the older sis with a Hubs and kids.

You sound like you have the exact mix of know-how and how-to. And I'm happy to hear that he broke up with the girl. Poor girl, good boy. Agreed.

booklineandsinker said...

disturbing!!! i don't have kids of my own...but work in a high school (one of those elite, private ones) where parents are UBER-heli-parents--literally and metaphorically.

parents take helis to work in NYC from their tony beach palaces AND manage to text/hover about their kids...driving them and ME up a wall.

the other end of the spectrum that i see is the 'accessory children'...parents who had kids because they thought it was in the marriage contract. married people do NOT have to have kids. kids aren't a handbag that you buy to go with your new status as wife or husband. they are PEOPLE...pay attention to them! do not cast them aside like last season's prada!

why is there no happy medium? come on, parents! you can do it! follow the advice in this post! we will all be happier. :)

sorry...this topic just hits a bit close to home for me. i deal with so many unhappy kids every day...

Queenie Jeannie said...

You know, I bet the girl was really great but had psycho controlling parents. How sad!!

Now I feel all nice and normal today, lol!

Jo said...

I don't think I have ever texted any of my kids friends, unless it was to return a text they had sent. That lady is just creepy. It makes me wonder how the parents justify doing that?
Also makes me wonder if she was a cougar???

Under the Influence said...

Calling to wake up college students? My 12 year old gets himself up and into the shower each morning, thanks to his own alarm clock!

And the girlfriend's mom texting? Weird. Obviously he does not have a helicopter mom or she would have called the girlfriends mom and told her to back off! It sounds like a good thing he broke up with the girlfriend and her mom.

Renee said...

That seems so bizarre. I can't imagine.

Love Renee xoxo

Nana said...

Amen! It is so hard to let go and sometimes watch your kids fall on their faces but, you gotta do what you gotta do.

The other day Papa said something to the effect of asking one of our kids why he doesn't do such and such and he's going to tell him to do such and such.

I said " Papa he's 31 yrs. old. We need to stay out of it, end of discussion."

Sometimes it's hard to remember WE have adult children.

Lara said...

I love my mother very much, but she was (and still is) a helicopter parent. Even though we didn't really call them that back then.

All I have to say is: You are a very wise woman.

Amen.

Senora Muertos said...

Thank you for this! I have a 12yr old soon to be 13yr and a 7yr old. I am worried about what to do once they get older. I want to be there for them and have them still want to talk to me. This will help me to do that!

lagirl said...

I gotta tell you, our daughters texting habits are a major stresser in our life...I would be all over the situation if I found adults to be texting her.
Crazies!

Evil Twin's Wife said...

Weird! When I was at college (in the dinosaur days before cell phones), I usually only spoke to my parents by phone once a week - it was so expensive to call in state long distance (I was only an hour away from home). I can't imagine texting, calling, constant checking up on my kids, but my oldest is only 11....I hope I can be as gracious letting out the apron strings as my parents were. :-)

Brooke said...

my husband's ex girlfriend's mother comments on every picture he posts. "the two of you are so cute"

yes, we are. he's not with your daughter any more. leave us alone please. and thank you.

Caroline said...

Yikes, the mother-in-law-from-hell-in waiting! How awful! Well, done though Debbie - your subtle message obviously got through!!

I'm so glad that this texting and facebooking didn't really get going until my girls were out of their teens!!!

And what on earth will it be like for the next generation of teens?

Anna See said...

Holy Moley! This is crazy. I need to start backing off right now, when my kids are 8 and 10. I do not want to be one of those parents.

I remember my parents dropping me off at college and saying "see you at Thanksgiving." That's the way it should be.

Amy said...

Great post. I hope I am a parent that can be there but not be into too much of their stuff as they grow older.

rachel said...

So weird. I wonder what the boy's parents think.

And hell, my NINE year old has her own alarm clock. Seriously, our job as parents is to someday work ourselves OUT of our job, right?

Nancy said...

Wow, thats really weird!!!! If my daughters boyfriends mother or father were texting HER I'd be really annoyed and ask them why they were contacting my daughter all the time!!! How creepy.

Sharon said...

Good for you for biting your tongue. I wouldn't have been so controlled. I would have said something stupid and entirely appropriate like:

"can you spell STALKER?"

shraddha/april@theselfloveproject said...

wow..that's got to be weird!

great post

shraddha/april@theselfloveproject said...

wow..that's got to be weird!

great post

shraddha/april@theselfloveproject said...

wow..that's got to be weird!

great post

shraddha/april@theselfloveproject said...

wow..that's got to be weird!

great post

MommyJ said...

when I grow up, I want to mother teenagers like you do.

the end.

Kristina P. said...

I think it's creepy.

H-Mama said...

strange indeed. having said that, i may run to your blog to help me learn balance when 'cutting the apron strings' (if that's possible ;) with my girls... sigh...

Elle said...

Weird. Thank goodness they broke up. I think your choice of words was very good, he needed to know! I totally believe in breathing room!

Krëg said...

I wonder how much of that over-involvement is just ingrained behavior from the early years of parenting? It's almost as if parents don't realize their children grow up as the years pass.

It could also be that parents need to get out and get lives of their own instead of living vicariously through their children. You know, a society full of parents that set an example of how adults function in the world, instead of parents that do nothing other than dote on their child's every movement, creating a generation of spoiled brats with inflated senses of entitlement.

Pricilla said...

Seriously. If I were the girl I would have been so embarrassed. He did the right thing.

Just because you CAN does not mean you SHOULD.

Pam said...

I couldn't agree with you more! I am proud to say that I am NOT (nor have I ever been) a helicopter parent. Even when my kids were little I wasn't into micromanaging their little lives. And I must say, it was difficult at times. I was definitely judged by the other moms. I still question myself sometimes when I hear other moms talk about all the stuff their kids have accomplished or are doing because they (the parents) "insisted". I wonder if I'm not doing enough. If I let my kids "be" too much. I had just such a moment earlier today. Your post couldn't have come at a better time. Thank you. It's good to know that maybe I am on the right track.

Amy said...

Wow--wonder why it lasted this long! lol

I agree-- and you gave me some wisdom for the future.

Charisse said...

YIKES! I would freak out. I rarely talk to my boyfriend's mother unless it is while we are in the same room. I love her, she's totally awesome, but I don't even have her phone number. And if she has mine, (which as a parent I am sure she does) she has never used it.

Mama Zen said...

That's just weird. And, a little creepy!

Above Average Joe said...

At first I was thinking the whole "Mrs Robinson" thing. Now I wonder what's worse.

Jody said...

Well that was a creepy lady wasn't it.

Sara said...

I see that problem with my generation already blooming. It's frightening, really. I hope I have enough sense as you and took your words of wisdom & filed them in my brain. Thanks! :)

Glamour Girl said...

This is one of the smartest posts I've ever seen anywhere. I know I know, your head should proudly be huge! I have a 2 and 4 year old and can't imagine how much life will continue to change but what I've learned from life is if you squeeze someone in your hand like a wet grape, they'll pop right out. If you let them know you care for them and are there if they need you - guess what - they'll come when they do.

People don't understand you have to allow your kids to experiment with making mistakes while they are still in your house. When they get out and you aren't there - THEN the mistakes could be bigger without the experience.

Bravo to you my dear!

Roshni Mitra Chintalapati said...

uh oh! So, I can't listen in on their phone conversations?! Damn!!

Seriously, parents who are so paranoid need to visit a psychologist! That poor girl...having to live with those people for a big part of her life! I'll bet she's just waiting to run off!!

Mwa said...

That's too freaky.

Kathi D said...

You are a wise and thoughtful mother. My own mother told me, long after I had become an adult, that the house felt "empty" after her first son went off to school--and she still had four of us at home! Yet she resisted whatever urge she had to hover. As much as she missed us, she always said, "I wouldn't be much of a mother if my kids never left home, would I?"

Kathi D said...

P.S. I'm betting you planted valuable seeds of doubt that grew in that young man's mind. Good for you!

lisaschaos said...

I'm absolutely with you on this! I'm lucky enough to have kids as friends on facebook but I try to pretend we don't know each other, lol. They're great kids - what concerned me was some photos my step-daughter put up - I just didn't tell her dad, but if he ever finds them - well, it won't be pretty - now she should have thought of that , right.

Melanie J said...

Um.

Holy crap.

That is all.

DeNae said...

Loved the picture of Endora. You are so totally my twin.

I would want to BRAIN any mother who thought she had the right to run my kid's life. What a fruitcake.

I'm really enjoying the relationship I have with my 22-year old college son. He calls or texts nearly every day, but it's always on his terms, and usually just lasts a minute or two.

I expect my 19-year old will be the same, and that's fine, too.

I also have a 16-year old college kid who lives at home, and it's amazing how fast they develop that new degree of maturity and the need for their own space.

I'm the opposite of a helicopter mom. More along the lines of, "If you need me I'll be in my closet reading Victorian murder mysteries and drinking Diet Coke. Knock first."

Is that bad?

Live.Love.Eat said...

All I could think of at first was Mrs. Robinson :) But I am glad he did the right thing. That's just weird!!!!!

Cathy said...

Wow! I cannot believe that a girlfriends mom would do that! I am so thankful my parents subscribed to the shut up and drive theory growing up....I have a fabulous relationship with them now.

Jenni Jiggety said...

I think I know some of those parents!

Morgan said...

The being quiet and listening to every word they're saying in the car idea is brilliant. I'm going to have to remember that for 10 years from now!

Good thing that kid broke up with the girl. Can you imagine what kind of mother-in-law that lady would make if she's that bad when her daughter's only dating a guy?!?

The Blonde Duck said...

That is freaky! He was smart!

My mom helicopter parents my sister.

A Lawyer Mom's Musings said...

I called a mom down the street the other day to see if her 2nd grader could come outside and ride bikes with my son. (Most of the moms around here are big on SCHEDULING play, while mine runs free after homework). But the bike riding proposal was soundly rejected. "We NEVER let him ride his bike unless we are watching him the entire time!" she gasped. Oops. Must run. I think CPS is at the door. She must have turned me in.

C.G. the Foodie said...

PERFECT POST. As a high school teacher I echo your sentiments!

The Crazy Suburban Mom said...

omg, you. are. kidding? i mean i know your not but you. are. kidding.

im dumb-founded... speechless...

and thats not my normal state.

Rachael said...

That is just crazy behavior. I'm glad you had the good sense to talk some sense into him so tactfully!

(My Dad texts like a teenager - who, I have no idea, but thank goodness he has the good sense to only text me once in a great while!)

Laura Ingalls Gunn said...

Preach on! I agree with everything you say. You learn so much when you use just your ears.
My girl recently moved out and it is tough, but I wait for her to call me.

Aunt LoLo said...

Once again, I learn at the feet of the master.

Now, at what age do I have to stop butting in on my daughter's playdates??? ;-)

Jennifer said...

That is insane. I am going to try really really hard as my children grow up to let them live their lives without me sticking my nose into every little thing. Kids need to live to learn. If they don't live they don't learn.

Michelle said...

OMG, that is crazy! I agree some parents won't let go. I have always had the philosophy that I am supposed to raise my children up as responsible, polite, and successful young men and women and by doing everything for them they cannot become successful adults. Teach them not control them.

Cameron said...

Unreal. I don't have kids yet, but I do see those tendencies in my friends with kids. It's too much, it's not healthy. It's amazing that you have boundaries but closeness with your kids, that is what I aspire to when I have them as well.
Your son is a wise young man for breaking up with the girl!
Cameron from
Conquer The Monkey

Rachel@just another day in paradise said...

creepy. Advice given to me from an older friend: Buy a minivan. You can chauffer everyone, and listen to all the things they won't say TO you. I have yet to follow through withthis advice. As my hubby says, "WE are NOT van people."

Stephanie Faris said...

Very thought-provoking blog. I work with a woman who is intensely involved in her kids' life. When they were in high school, everyone would listen as she sat in her office arranging every detail for them. They were in football and cheerleading and she was OBSESSED. She barely did her job, she was so involved. Then they grew up, got married, and the oldest now has a baby...guess who Miss Overinvolved is obsessing over now? You HAVE to wonder what it turns those kids into.

Actually, I know. I have a cousin whose mom did that to her...and she grew up unable to handle anything. Ended up having four children and she's just a mess most days. Her mom has to step in and help raise them.

Deb said...

Thank you, thank you, thank you. Why is it that parents today seem to come in only two flavors: "I'm Never Leaving You" and "Don't Give A Damn?" My favorite flavor, "I'm a Reasonably Invovled Parent Who Can Cut The Strings When I Have To" seems to have been discontinued. I think they still make it, you just have to know where to look...

Just Add Walter said...

that is crazy... I don't have any kids but I do have a ton of nephews and nieces (12) so I know that sitting back and listening will get you way more info then constantly asking questions etc... great post

Mother Mayhem said...

VERY smart boy. ;o)

You gave us all some sage advice. Thanks.

D... said...

Creepy! I'm sitting here trying to imagine texting a boyfriend or girlfriend of one of my children. Nope, just don't see any business I'd have of doing that. Glad that boy got wise!

Parents have today have a hard road to navigate with all this texting and social media. Doesn't really take an physics degree, tho. I'm glad my kids are my friends on Facebook, too. I'm NOT friends with their friends, tho.

WhisperingWriter said...

Yes, that's just creepy that she was texting your son.

While I love my children, I know that it's important to give them space.

Bridgett said...

Will you be my mom? :)

Actually, my mom can't even sign onto a computer, so one less thing I have to worry about. LOL

XOXO

shortmama said...

WTF??? If I were that woman's daughter I would have somethings to say to my mom!! My mom and I text all the time, but I am 30 not 18 and she is my best friend. But she doesnt text my hubs, ever, at all...and she likes him too.

The Dental Maven said...

Holy Smokes! If that's not a red flag then I don't know what is. And a message to all the mom's out there texting your childrens' friends: GET A LIFE! Volunteer at the local library, take up pottery, start a mahjong club or get a job.

Kathleen @ ForgingAhead said...

First of all, what is WRONG with these people? Are there really parents like that? I am so out of touch.

And secondly, that goodness you're in this young man's life. Close call.

Hit 40 said...

Thank heavens he broke up with her!! Now he needs to break up with the mom...

I bet the mom still texts him.

Herb of Grace said...

You're such a good mom. :) I highly agree with you! I hope I can do as well when me kids are teens :)

Small House said...

OKAY....that's wierd! I'm not even sure I have a comment regarding the girlfriends mother, other than....wierd. And maybe awkward. Hmmmm.....

Hopefully that young man will go far....very far away to college. Oh, and change phone numbers.
Sandra

Sandy said...

This is all so foreign to me.

Sandy said...

This is all so foreign to me.

Tammy Howard said...

Oh dear.


I think I'll just leave it at that.

Erin B said...

Oh my, I can't believe how so many people stock their kids...crazy! Thank the Lord that social networking wasn't around when I was younger...my Mom would totally be stocking me!

BONNIE K said...

I know some of those helicopter parents, and it is just plain creepy to me that some parents cannot let their kids go. And vice-versa.

Krimmyk said...

Thanks for the visit. I popped in and LOVE the blog!

Samantha Gianulis said...

damn, i love your blog. i had a similar story to tell very recently, and it had a similar ending - thankfully.
i thought i was the only one this happened to, which, as you told me before, is one of the perks of blogging =)
thank you again...

Whatever Dee-Dee wants said...

Texting your kids boyfriend is so not ok.

Kimberly said...

Wow, that is just gross, frankly. I'd be more worried the mom was into him than trying to control. Ick!

Karen said...

It all starts with the parade of parents in elementary and middle school bringing in the lunches and gym shoes and homework their children "forgot". Let them take the consequences of "forgetting" a few times and they'll suddenly be able to remember better.

Leen said...

You are so right! About all of it!

I have learned the art of being quiet in car and listening. Also, if you want to know something ask you kid in front of their friends. Info seems to spill better that way. But, if they both look at each other and get quiet, watch out!

Midlife Jobhunter said...

Sometimes I feel like a bad mom as I don't contact my kids that are away at school enough. I've been told it is because I have boys. I'm not so sure. Seems their garnering independence is most important.

♥ Boomer ♥ said...

I know someone I really wish you could talk with ... but it's too late. Her son is 41. She can't let go. He can't let go. He calls her 14 times a day. Seriously. (By the way, this is not my hubby or sons, etc.!)

Personally I am dealing with the possibility that our son who just moved here a little over a year ago with his little family may take a new job and move 3 hours away. I've been so good this past year while they've lived here to let them live their lives, to be available when they need me, to enjoy being with them when I can, etc. And now, I'm trying desperately to be good and let them move without being a big ole nosy, worry-wart baby about it.

Parents need to butt out. Spot on! Starting now ... when they're sprouting their wings! I think some women especially try to live THROUGH their kids, and that's very sad indeed.

Kristen said...

that poor girl!! I feel for her because her parents are obviously way too intense!

the planet of janet said...

OUCH!

i will admit to calling z-man for a couple days after he slept through his alarm the first few days of school (7 a.m. class, dude!), but he ASKED me to!

i have since parked my helicopter and turned over the keys.

Laoch of Chicago said...

Wow, things have changed a lot since I was a teenager.

ladyfi said...

You're a wise wise woman, Debbie.

Not surprised he broke up with her, although I hope for her sake, the mum stops trying to control every aspect of her life...

Myrnie said...

Yeesh! My dad will comment on facebook if something major happens- my little brother posted about his car accident and never thought to call our parents (he was in another state.) Dad totally cyber-chewed him out. My MIL will post an occasional "way to go!" if one of her kids posts an accomplishment...but constant texting of a daughter's BF? Weird...

Helene said...

That's just crazy that his girlfriend's MOTHER was texting him....yeah, that's taking it a little too far. I love your parenting style!! I really hope I can walk that line with my kids when they're older!

Alexis AKA MOM said...

wow what the heck, when I was young my mom would never have done that, I wouldn't either.

I agree be a secret stalker on facebook :). My kids aren't old enough for FB yet but I hope not to be so crazy when they are :)

Glad he dumped the girl, talk about warning signs.

Love the comment about helicopter parents I did a post about them at the playground :)

The Things We Carried said...

Ugh, this happened to my son too. I thought it was weird and disturbing. He was in 9th grade, or so, at the time (the mom was in her late thirties, hello!). The girl and her mom are gone in my story, I am glad they are gone in yours too!

Design it Chic said...

Oh poor kid! And thinking that there are tons of kids dealing with that kind of stuff... it makes me sad!

Good thing i was a rebellious kid since forever and my parents couldn't catch me in that mastering process.. mwahahaha :)))

Oh and you may want to stop by and see what the heck happened to our 'casa' last night.. crazy i tell you!!!

Happy Thursday!

scrappysue said...

FUREEKY!!! my teenager girls are currently boycotting facebook - they're still hangin' onto bebo, but i think they'll cave eventually

floreta said...

i'm glad you're a sensible parent. that would drive me batty :P and yeah its a bit weird that his gf's MOM texts all the time. not only does she control her daughters life (as im sure), but her boyfriend too?? wow.

Alicia said...

WHAT?! I would lay the smackdown if some cougar was texting my son. totally inappropriate! why can't parents just be PARENTS nowadays??

Jeni said...

Since you mention texting and problems, here's one ongoing in our family these days. My son-in-law here has three children besides the two little ones he and my daughter have together. His oldest (age 17) lives with us; the two middle children (of another mother) live with their maternal grandmother. The older of the two middle kids -a girl, age 13 -as taken to texting the 17-year-old's 20-year-old boyfriend. The 17-year-old has told her younger sister she has no business texting her boyfriend but the younger one persists in doing that. Daughter and I have told the 17-year-old that this could be a bad situation for her boyfriend, with the yonger girl doing that as it wouldn't surprise me in the least if the kid's grandmother got hold of the cellphone and messages and made an issue of it, blaming the young man (who, by the way, is a very nice young fellow, very straight arrow, but the younger girl is not so much along that vein. I suggested my daughter or the SIL contact the maternal grandmother to tell her the kid's behavior it totally out of line but they don't want to do that because SIL says she is just doing it to try to contact her older half-sister but she isn't -she's doing this when she KNOWS the 17-year-old is NOT there! She has no business whatsoever contacting a 20-year-old guy -regardless of whether he is her sister's boyfriend or some one totally outside the family confines is my opinion and should have the damned cellphone taken away from her -or the texting privilege rescinded or something like that. I told the 17-year-old to tell her BF to tell younger girl if she doesn't cease and desist, he will bring charges against her for harassment by telephone communications! Yes, I am the bitch here, for sure. But children should also learn boundaries and rules and regulations as well -and then punishments that are appropriate for infractions, etc., etc. And some grandparents -and parents -also need to learn that their children are not always the little saints they may perceive them to be either! What would you do?

Georgina said...

Wow, that is just too creepy! Good thing you were able to give him something to think about and he was able to make a good decision about it. - G

Sue said...

That is weird. I don't even know how to text - lol.

Teri said...

Yeah, I'm having a hard time dealing with my 16 year old daughter's boyfriend because of his MOTHER. She felt it necessary to have a sit down with me because her very-immature-this-is-his-first-girlfriend-son seems to be smitten with my daughter and (gasp) wants to do things she likes to do. And while he was at our house yesterday, this woman called a couple of times asking what he wanted her to buy for him at the grocery store. Geez.

Heather of the EO said...

That's just...hard for me to wrap my mind around. Firstly, I can't get used to this constant texting thing. Any chance it'll go away by the time my boys have phones??? Yeah, by then we'll probably be on to some other thing that I won't understand.

But anyway...I'm sure it's hard to let go of control, but it just has to be done. All this technology makes it far too easy to hover.

Nap Warden said...

Wow girl...you got it down. That was some great advice:) So glad he broke up with the girl...Mom texting an 18 year old boy is crazy.

Frances said...

OMG, Debbie, you are so right! My kids' bio mom is like this. She wants to be their friend and their friends' friend so bad it just seems so desperate. I, and they, just want to tell her to get some friends of her own.

I used to stalk my kids on myspace, but I was not obvious about it. Now they are adults, no need to know what they are doing every minute. And sometimes it is better that way.

The girlfriend's mom that was texting the boyfriend was a little scary to me!

Aleta said...

Dang. I'm so not with the times. I rarely text. I figure if it's worth talking about, you pick up the phone! Email and FB and blogging, but I don't text.

I can't get over the fact that the girlfriend's MOM was texting him. That's..... scary.

Cheffie-Mom said...

Very strange!

Listening to our children is so important. Your kiddos are blessed to have you!

Melissa Marsh said...

Oh dear heavens. I can't imagine even thinking of texting my daughter's future boyfriend (may that be many years from now...).

I'm friends with my stepson on Facebook, but usually just leave well enough alone. :-)

Kaylynn said...

Sometimes people just need to have things pointed out to them that they already know. By the way, I loved Sabrina, but certainly thought the whole family dynamics was a bit odd. I mean what husband wouldn't want their wife to do a little magic in the house cleaning department.

Aunt Julie said...

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mommyknows said...

I agreed with you 100%, except the shut up and drive part. In the case of older kids, surely, engaging a 17 year old in some adult conversation is not so terrible.

My philosophy is, I am raising adults and I give my kids tons of freedom and responsibility. However, I also don't want them treating me like the chauffer/maid.

I don't want to join in on the kid talk, but they can certainly make polite conversation for a few minutes!

How was the movie? Was the mall busy? How was practice? Is your mom feeling better?

Most of the teenagers I get around are quite happy to chat. They keep coming back for more :)

Wenbren Explains It All said...

good for him!What the hell is a grown woman texting a teenager boy for?That's just wrong, weird, and out of place, I wonder what his ex thought of this!

carma said...

Man, I'm glad there was a happy ending to the story. Can you imagine having her as a mother-in-law *shudders*

Moms socializing with kids' friends is downright creepy in my book!

The Peach Tart said...

I can't agree with you more. I had this same conversation with a friend of mine last night who wanted to put a chip in their son's car but not tell them.

*Kat* said...

Great advice - ah, the things I have to learn in the coming years as my daughter gets older....

Louise said...

I'm happy the boy broke up with the girl. That's insanely wrong. All of it. (Except being a chauffeur and listening to every. single. word but pretending to not be there. Appropriate behavior aside, don't people know you can learn more that way than constant interference?)

Shawn said...

Wow! Freaky----I have never heard of that before....I have grown children---but I try to keep pretty much out of their business---they wouldn't listen to me anyway, if I did interfere!!

Mamma Christine said...

Yikes! I am relishing in the fact that my kids aren't into social technology yet. Love your advice about not entering into the conversation. I think it's right on. I need to start practicing now, it's going to take a while to learn that one :S

L.T. Elliot said...

You are a very, very wise woman. I should sit down and ask you all sorts of questions. Really.

Jane said...

Well I'm late on this post, but just had to comment. I think I might know this Mother who was texting her daughters boyfriend. The thing that scares me the most is to think there is more than one of her in this world!

I'm glad you made the comment you did, it was not too invading yet it also got the point across.

autumnesf said...

After surviving a son that got into some rather bad internet stuff (no, it wasn't porn), I am on my daughters fb. We learned lots of lessons with the first one and giving them too much freedom too soon on the dirtiest place in the world - the internet. Mostly I don't comment on daughters page...but occasionally I stick my nose in and leave a comment. Not a friend comment. But a mom comment. I WANT them all to know I am up front and personal in my daughters life. When she was using unacceptable language (to me) I said so for all the see. And some of her friends even agreed. (We really don't like OMG). When she was feeling down and blue about our move I left encouraging notes.

But I am not the friend mom.

I'm the involved one.

I'm not helicoptor mom. I'm more like robocop! LOL!!!

C said...

Wow! Fantastic post. You are a wise, wise woman!!! :) BTW, I surfed in via BlogHer. Great blog you've got here!

suzannah said...

yowza. i read something that identified 9/11 as a sort of seismic pendelum shift in overprotective/overinvolved/obsessive parenting. 9/11 happened at the tail end of college for me, and my parents and my friends parents were NOTHING like what you describe and what we see here in camper (and staff!) parents. of course, 2001 was also around the time that cell phone use balooned and it became possible to know where people were at all times. craziness.

Sodermoto said...

That is crazy... I can't believe some girlfriends mother would display that sort of craziness! Wow, I am happy that he ran far away... that can only end badly if he had stayed.

Jennee said...

Amazing blog! I love it. Thanks for visiting Cheap Therapy! Looking forward to reading more of your blogs! happy Labor day!

CailinMarie said...

it is really freaky how 10-15 years ago that woman would have been seen at completely crazy and now so very MANY parents act like that!!
That poor girl.
I know a woman, 34 yrs of age. She still calls her mother EVERY night or her mother calls her. This 34 yr old woman has never truly dated. (imagine why not?) her parents continue to be overly involved in EVERYTHING. Its sad to me.

bookjourney said...

Excellent. My boys are 19 and 21. They are my facebook friends and I like you do not invade in their space.

I love this post!

Ronnica said...

Wow, that's a bit much. My parents have always tried to be the anti-helicopter, and only recently have taken me up on the "yes, it's okay to call your daughter occassionally...I WANT you to."

Life with Kaishon said...

I am not at that stage yet thank goodness, but I hope I will be the right kind of mom like you are : ). When Kaish was in first and second grade and he went out to play in the neighborhood I went with him. There were no kids. It was just us. But last year, other families with kids moved in. So now, when they go out to play, I wish him well : ) tell him NOT to ride his bike in front of cars and send him on his merry way. It is so hard for me to watch him grow up, but I am glad he is doing it :)

I am glad the boy broke up with the girl. That is just creepy!

lisleman said...

This helicopter stuff is stupid and not good for either side. These kids need to gain self confidence, think on their own.

Now I don't care much for teenagers and have raised 5. They were all different.

I think there is at least two things driving this helicopter stuff - 1. Fear hyped by marketing/media 2. the technology to do it. My parents couldn't call me because there were no cell phones.

good post

Lindsay Rudolph said...

That is really rediculous! But I have also seen those stalker parents in action. I think it is great to be involved in your children's life, but come on now. That is a bit much!